March 30, 2026
Your Campus Runs on a Pyramid of Lies
There’s a reason the same explanation keeps showing up in every staff meeting, every training, every conversation about struggling students.
It feels good.
Problem is- It wasn’t built on evidence.
Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs became one of the most widely accepted frameworks in education without ever being meaningfully tested the way we use it.
In this episode, we go back to where the pyramid actually came from, walk through what the research has (and hasn’t) found, and take a hard look at why it spread anyway.
Because if the foundation isn’t solid, it doesn’t matter how good your intentions are.
You’re still building on it.
Referred to in this episode:
Ep. 106, "TPT's Dirty Truths & Why You Need an Evidence-Base"
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This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.
00:00 - The Pyramid Everyone Believes
02:24 - Maslow’s Shaky Origin Story
04:39 - Who Actually Drew The Pyramid
06:57 - What The Research Found
09:30 - Global Data Breaks The Hierarchy
11:33 - Why Schools Kept Using It
14:55 - The Worksheets That Feel Like Help
16:20 - Foster Students Who Defied The Pyramid
18:54 - Our Job Is Evidence-Based Thinking
21:51 - Stop Following Diagrams
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You've seen the pyramid.
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Basic physiological needs at the bottom, safety above that, belonging, esteem, and self-actualization at the top, that aspirational peak where humans supposedly reach their full potential.
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Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
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It's in graduate textbooks, teacher training, and district PD presented as established science.
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And at some point in your career, someone has almost certainly used it to explain why a certain student was struggling.
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Well, I mean, if their basic needs aren't met, they can't possibly learn.
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And every head in the room nodded in agreement.
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Because it feels true.
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So let me ask you a question that I suspect nobody else has ever asked you about this.
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Have you ever looked for the evidence?
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Not the feeling that it makes sense, not the fact that it's in every textbook or based on the intuitive appeal of the visual.
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I mean the actual peer-reviewed research, controlled studies, data testing whether human motivation actually works the way Maslow says it does.
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I have.
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And what I found is going to change how you sit in every PD session from now on.
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Hey, school counselor, welcome back.
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Today we're taking on one of the most widely accepted frameworks in our field.
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Something you've seen on slides, heard in trainings, and probably used yourself.
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But we are gonna go back to the actual research, and what we find is gonna make you think twice about every PD slide in every workshop you've ever attended.
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So if you're ready for some straight top, my friend, some clarity in your work, and maybe a little bit of rebellion, you are in the right place.
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I'm Steph Johnson, and this is the School for School Counselors podcast.
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All right, so let me start at the beginning because the origin story of this pyramid actually matters a lot.
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Abraham Maslow published a theory of human motivation in 1943 in the psychological review.
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He was interested in what drives human behavior.
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So he laid out this hierarchy, the idea that lower-level needs need to be at least partially satisfied before higher-level needs become motivating.
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And once he put that into the world, the theory started to spread.
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So, what did he base these ideas on?
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He used something called biographical analysis, meaning he looked at the biographies and writings of 18 people he personally identified as self-actualized.
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His sample included Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson, Albert Einstein, Aljuis Huxley, and Beethoven.
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And this was a list that was heavily skewed toward educated Western men.
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And once he identified these men, he worked backward through their lives and declared that he had found the universal architecture of human motivation.
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Now, to be clear, he had no controlled studies, no experimental design, no representative sample, and no replication.
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This was just one man's interpretive reading of 18 biographies filtered entirely through his own judgment about who counted as a fully realized human being.
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And Maslow himself said that less than 2% of the population would ever achieve self-actualization.
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So basically, he defined the pinnacle of human development by studying an unrepresentative sliver of extraordinary historical figures and then presented what he determined as a universal law.
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That's Maslow's theory.
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But then let's move to the pyramid.
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Because Maslow didn't draw that.
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When researchers went back through the archives, including all Maslow's papers at the Center for the History of Psychology at the University of Akron, they found no trace of Maslow ever representing his ideas in pyramid form.
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The pyramid was actually created by other people.
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He published it in a business publication called Business Horizons, which was aimed at corporate executives.
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And from there, it found its way into management textbooks, then into education courses, then into teacher prep programs, and then into the school counseling world.
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And nobody along the way ever stopped to ask where's the evidence for this?
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And there's even one more thing worth knowing about Maslow's original theory, because I will almost guarantee no one has ever mentioned this to you.
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He walked it back.
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In a later work, Maslow admitted that his first statements about the hierarchy may have given a false impression that a need had to be satisfied 100% before the next need emerged.
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And so he clarified he didn't think needs worked that way, that satisfaction isn't all or nothing, and that higher needs can and do emerge before the lower ones are fully resolved.
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So the strict sequential model, the one that you've seen presented on the slides, that implies that a student can't access a feeling of belonging until their safety is fully addressed, is not what Maslow proposed.
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And yet that version is still the one that's being taught.
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So if the theory were sound, researchers who tested it empirically would have found some consistent support.
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Need A would need to be substantially met before need B became motivating.
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You'd be able to measure it, to replicate it, and to predict from it.
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But that's not what happened.
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In 1976, 33 years after Maslow's original paper, Mahmoud Weiba and Lawrence Bridwell published what became the defining review of empirical tests of the hierarchy in organizational behavior and human performance.
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They examined every major category of study that had tried to test Maslow's claims.
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Longitudinal studies, testing whether satisfying one level of need activated the next level?
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No support.
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Cross-sectional studies testing whether unmet needs dominate motivation the way the hierarchy predicts.
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No clear evidence.
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Their overall conclusion presented only partial support for the concept of a need hierarchy and no support for the core sequential claim.
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They described the theory as almost untestable.
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So I want you to understand what that means.
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Because as a trained chemist, this is sending off alarm bells like nobody's business.
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Here's the thing: a good scientific theory makes specific, testable predictions.
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It makes predictions clear enough that a study could come back and prove them wrong.
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If later evidence doesn't match what the theory proposes, the theory fails.
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That's how science is supposed to work.
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But Maslow's theory didn't operate that way.
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The framework is so vague in its definitions and so flexible in its construction that when it was tested, researchers kept finding ways to explain away the results that didn't fit.
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So it really couldn't be tested because it really couldn't fail.
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Weibha and Bridwell called it almost non-testable.
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Scientists have a less polite word for that.
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But that review was published in 1976, so almost 50 years ago.
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And yet this pyramid kept spreading.
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But the story doesn't even end there.
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Because 50 years after that, when researchers finally had the scale to test Maslow's claims across the entire world, the results still were not forgiving.
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In 2011, Louis Tay and Ed Deaner published a study that remains the most comprehensive cross-cultural test of Maslow's framework ever conducted.
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They analyzed data from almost 61,000 participants across 123 countries because they wanted representation from every major region of the world.
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And what did they find?
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But the hierarchy didn't hold.
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Tay and Deaner described it this way: needs work like vitamins.
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We need them all.
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And you don't just take one vitamin in order to make all the others relevant.
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A 2023 study in world development put it even more plainly.
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Needs are not satisfied sequentially.
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And in a finding that should stop all of us in our tracks, love and belonging contribute the most to life satisfaction across populations, more than physiological needs, more than safety.
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So the hierarchy doesn't just lack support.
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According to the most recent evidence, it may have the order of importance completely backwards.
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So we have been treating a management framework invented by a Western psychologist, honed through an unrepresentative sample, retracted in part by its own author, and unsupported by 50 years of cross-cultural research, as though it were an evidence-based educational finding.
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And y'all, it is not.
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Which makes us wonder if the evidence was that shaky early on, and if it stayed that way every time somebody examined Maslow's hierarchy, why is it still around?
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Why has it persisted?
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And the honest answer is not very flattering.
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But I'm gonna be honest because I think that's what we need to do.
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My take on this is we needed it to spread.
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The pyramid gave schools something that evidence-based thinking rarely gives us.
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It was a framework that made the work feel doable and made the people doing that work feel effective.
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Think about that bottom level of the pyramid, physiological needs.
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Student is lacking basic needs, get them food, get them a coat, connect them with the backpack program.
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If they have safety needs, call someone, write a referral, file a report.
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These are concrete, completable tasks.
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They have a clear endpoint.
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You did the thing, you see that you do it, and then the pyramid implies that doing these things is the intervention, and that everything above it should now follow.
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So let me be direct and real.
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There is a version of helping that is genuinely about kids, and then there's a version of helping that's about the adults' need to feel effective.
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The thing about Maslow's hierarchy was that it served both those needs simultaneously, and it was really hard to tease them apart.
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It gave schools a framework that made the provision of resources look like invested care.
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And it made the people providing these resources feel like they were moving the needle.
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That's why it spread.
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Not because it was true and tested, or really even because we ever saw any evidence for it.
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It spread because it felt useful.
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It served as a theory to justify programming.
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It felt useful to teachers who wanted to make the case that they were addressing the whole child.
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And it felt useful for educational systems that needed a clinical-sounding explanation for why they were doing what they were already doing anyway.
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And it's visually compelling.
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Researchers have described Maslow's hierarchy as one of the most cognitively contagious ideas in the behavioral sciences, meaning it spreads because it sticks, not because it's true.
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Its shape implies order, it implies progress, and it implies that if you handle everything on the bottom, which, just to be clear, are often the easiest needs to address, the top takes care of itself.
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But it doesn't.
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And by the time anyone noticed that, this framework was too embedded for anybody to start questioning it.
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The Maslow assumption became the theoretical infrastructure for an entire industry of school-based programming.
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And nobody in that industry ever stopped to check whether or not the framework was founded.
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Here's the part that should just punch us in the face as school counselors.
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This pattern is not unique to Maslow's hierarchy.
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You've seen this before, and you've probably seen it within the past week.
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Think about teachers pay teachers.
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If you listen to my episode on that, you already probably know where I'm going with this.
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But if you haven't, you can go back and listen.
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I'll put a link in the episode description.
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Teachers Pay Teachers is an enormous marketplace of counseling and classroom resources, right?
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You can go there and pick up SEL worksheets, coping skills menus, feelings charts, calm corner kits, all that kind of stuff.
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But none of those is required to demonstrate that it does anything.
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It looks counseling-oriented, it's packaged professionally, it makes the person using it feel prepared and effective.
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But the question of whether or not it actually produces any meaningful outcome for kids is never asked because the emotional reward of using it is considered sufficient.
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Maslow's hierarchy of needs is that pattern at an institutional scale with decades of momentum behind it.
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It was a framework that felt right, served adults who used it, and never had to prove that it actually worked.
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So let me step it back for a minute.
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Early in my school counseling career, I worked at a campus that served two institutional foster homes.
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So these were not typical foster homes.
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These were large group foster homes with many unrelated kids living under the same roof with appointed guardians.
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And I will tell you honestly, because I was trained that way, just like you were, I walked onto that campus and approached these kids through that pyramid.
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My initial assessment was that their basic needs had not reliably been met, right?
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Their safety had been uncertain.
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And the questions surrounding just their day-to-day existence about how long they would be in foster care and where they might go next made a sense of belonging feel very complicated.
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So I thought, how could they possibly have healthy self-esteem?
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How could they self-actualize?
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Y'all, that was the framework that I had been given.
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So I used it.
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But what I actually found when working with these students on this campus was something that the pyramid really didn't have any room for.
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Many of these students in foster care were more confident, more grounded, and more self-possessed than the students at that same campus whose every material need had always been met.
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My foster students had built determination.
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They had clarity about what they did not want.
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And they had this battle-tested sense of self-knowledge that the pyramids logic said they shouldn't have been able to access.
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Y'all, my foster students hadn't climbed the hierarchy.
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They defied it.
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And I tell that story because I probably had the same coursework you had.
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And I walked onto that campus with that framework that now I realize lowered my expectations for specific kids before I'd ever even talked to them.
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That's what a dangerous unexamined framework does.
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It shapes what you think is possible.
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It develops bias.
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It makes you draw conclusions prematurely.
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And if it shaped what I thought was possible, I know it has shaped what a lot of us see is possible for our students.
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So, really, here is the core of the whole thing.
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We are school counselors.
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We have graduate training in psychological theory, counseling methods, and child development.
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And we have coursework and research methods.
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We are on paper, some of the most, if not the most, equipped people in a school building to look at a framework and ask, where is the evidence for this?
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We know about this stuff, and yet we inherited Maslow uncritically.
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The same way, frankly, everybody else did, right?
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Because it was in the curriculum, it was on the slides, and it became so deeply embedded that questioning it felt really weird and even almost rude.
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Like we thought we knew more than Maslow.
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That's worth sitting and thinking through for a minute.
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Because we were given a framework by programs that weren't modeling what rigorous evidence-based thinking actually looks like in real practice.
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And that's a failure of a lot of the professional preparation we've received.
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And it hasn't only happened with Maslow.
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The good news is, though, we can do something about it.
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And I would even argue we have a professional obligation to do that.
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School counselors who are intentional about engaging seriously with the evidence base become way more confident.
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When you understand why frameworks don't hold up, how things work together, and what undermines your counseling efforts with students, you stop organizing your efforts around things that don't work.
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And you're able to have clearer conversations about the things that you are doing and why you've chosen them.
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That clarity is what builds clout on a campus.
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It is what helps you develop a voice and a sense of respect.
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And it helps differentiate you from program coordinator to school counselor.
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The school counselor who has read Weba and Bridwell is not being difficult when they say, hey, listen, this pyramid is not a good framework.
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We should not be using that.
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They are doing their job because our counseling training only means something if we use it.
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If you like these kinds of conversations where we look at what's been handed to us and we ask whether or not it holds water, that's what we do in the mastermind.
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Every single week we meet with school counselors who take evidence seriously and treat the research foundation as the asset that it actually is.
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Because if I'm guessing, you went into this work to actually help kids, right?
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Not run a substantiated frameworks.
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So if you want to have more of these types of conversations, the link to the mastermind is in the episode description.
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So the next time somebody puts that pyramid on a screen, you have a choice.
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You can nod and let it go and just let everybody absorb it the way you have every other time before, or you can sit with what you now know.
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Maslow did not draw that pyramid, he walked back on his own sequence.
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Model.
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And when researchers surveyed managers across the world and asked them to rank their needs in order of importance, only the Americans ranked them the way Maslow proposed.
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His hierarchy wasn't a map of human nature.
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It was a map of one man's and one culture's assumptions about human nature.
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And your students deserve better than that.
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We need to be following the evidence, not following the diagrams.
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And now you know the difference.
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Hey, I'm Steph Johnson.
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I'll be back soon with another episode of the School for School Counselors podcast.
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In the meantime, keep examining the evidence base and take care.
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